Comments on: Daley Decries Firearms, Wants To Rob Citizens Of Right To Self-Defense

By: logic lacks self-understanding

logic lacks self-understanding — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:39:21 +0000

dear logic,

maybe no one is refuting your argument because the “logic” you are intending to convey doesn’t work the way you want it to.

that is, no one is refuting your argument because it is self-refuting.

does that make sense?

By: Logic

Logic — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:17:01 +0000

Typical conservative…all you can do is “attack” yet never actually refute specific arguments or offer alternatives.
Guess that’s why you are America’s entertainment.

By: Dustbin of History

Dustbin of History — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:25:20 +0000

Your handle is “Logic”, but yet you seem to be unaware of the fact that logic is a very specific thing. Your logic–as it is being laboriously demonstrated–is bad. As it is being presented, you do not have a winning argument. The irony is almost too much to bear. No offense, but I would adopt a different attack strategy.

By: Logic

Logic — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:12:30 +0000

How so?

Gun owners have created this conservative culture of “take away guns, take away liberty.” The NRA and their lobbyists have done well. Money is pouring in and you idiots have clammored to this idea and identify yourself now not as an ordinary citizen walking around with something designed only to kill other human beings, but as a member of a culture. The NRA is successful…any organization that can create a logic-defying culture geared towards its business interests and bottom line is exceptional indeed.

I hope that logic overcomes in the end. The actual chances of you using that gun to defend yourself from a criminal are about the same that a meteor falls on your house. Yet I don’t see anyone reinforcing their roof.

Let the police carry the guns…they are the professionals and they do just fine.

Sure innocent people are attacked by criminals on a daily basis…people also die in cars in a daily basis…chalk it up to “life.” In no way is that a justification to walk around with a concealed instrument of death.

By: Embarrassed

Embarrassed — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:42:14 +0000

Logic, in addition to the 11:23 AM remark, I would like to add are very bad at picking fights.

By: Joseph Fosco

Joseph Fosco — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:34:40 +0000

Furthermore, the delays do not always effect everyone – its kind of strange, sorry.

By: Joseph Fosco

Joseph Fosco — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:32:38 +0000

Dear Viewers,

Sometimes your posts are delayed in appearing on the thread because the system gets confused and slows down (this does not occur very often). I am sorry if the delay has caused you any complications. Your post will be up soon. Thank you.

By: Joseph Fosco

Joseph Fosco — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:30:29 +0000

I guess we’ll wait for the Supreme Court to show us who the idiots are.

By: Dustbin of History

Dustbin of History — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:23:59 +0000

Actually, if you want to get technical, your logic is fundamentally flawed. Your making an inductive claim, and inductive claims can never actually be proven true.

“There are many firearms and murders in our society. By reducing the amount of firearms, we will reduce the amount of murders” is not a sound or valid argument. It is not necessarily true.

That is logic, Mr. Logic.

By: Logic

Logic — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:06:19 +0000

Joe don’t be an idiot…your “friend” saying that gangs use arson to murder those on their bad side over guns is about as idiotic as you can get.

Want to know why arson can’t be compared with guns? Becuase in 2008, there were a mere 315 arson-related murders in the US. Now take a guess on how many murders guns caused…hmm…ready to concede that was dumb?

Fact is your entire blame lies with the “killer” vs. the “weapon” logic is flawed because you fail to acknowledge what would happen if the ease and accessibility to a weapon where death is made so easy were to be taken away? Guns dwarf any other weapon used in homicide…any other method used in suicide…why? Because its quick, easy and efficient. Guns are designed to kill.

Gasoline is not. Plastic cocktail swords are not. I think its quite obvious for even the most irrational of any of us to assume that with guns taken away, yes murder would continue, but the rate of muders…frequency of muders…would all fall instantly because you take away the “efficiency” of murders and make it much more difficult to kill from a distance as you can with a gun.